Posts by sweet pea

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Heebie Jeebies over FDSC, and how to make your elders eyes glaze over.

by coaster in

for a few years now i have been getting a weird feeling with the oh-so-frequent use of term faithful and discreet slave, and some times class added.

i mention the added part cause we always say "is the word trinity found in the bible?

" nope, and neither is the phrase fdsc.

sweet pea

Coaster - love all your new posts - a belated welcome to the board!

Where, when and why did the "class" bit get added? I'm so spiritually weak I can't remember! LOL

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Mental Illness - diagnosed for me

by Crumpet in

i've long known, and most of you probably have as well, that there was something not all there with me.

mostly i put it down to me being bad.

questions i've never been asked before.

Mental Illness - diagnosed for me

by Crumpet in

i've long known, and most of you probably have as well, that there was something not all there with me.

mostly i put it down to me being bad.

questions i've never been asked before.

Hi Crumps

We love you just the way you are. However, I'm so glad you've got the help you so obviously have needed.

Hope this is the start of better days for you. Remember you're in good company - Stephen Fry no less! I remember when he was on Parky that he said "he wouldn't be without the condition because of the amazing highs" and he is the amazing creative person that he is because of it.

You too are a beautiful, creative, generous, wonderful, human being and we are privileged to know you.

Your 'fleshly' family are missing out more than they know and one day, if they ever see the light, they will read things here relating to you that will make them weep and be full of deep regret.

We are here for you.

SP

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Shunned in the Park...

by sweet pea in

today was rather a beautifully balmy hot summers day in the uk and i decided to take the babies to the park with a non jw friend of mine (let's call her y).

as i arrived in the park i caught sight of my best jw friend (let's call her x), one of the many who has decided she wants nothing more to do with me or my family.

i went to meet up with y and x walked straight past me with a quick flick round , obviously to check my babies out!

sweet pea

How dare you speak against me Besty! I officially disfellowship you!

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showed wife the new km article. bad decision.

by freeme in

hey guys.. sometimes im really next to crying (better: im crying).

no answer.

" no answer.

sweet pea

Freeme, so sorry that you're suffering, it must be a terrible burden on your shoulders right now.

I was your wife for the last 10 years. I have always been vehemently loyal to the 'truth' and would NEVER have thought of leaving (although secretly I had many issues I was not comfortable with - the way disfellowshipped ones were to be treated, birthdays, making WT history equal certain scriptures etc, etc.).

I knew my husband (Besty) didn't have the same love for the 'truth' as me but I ignored it, didn't have any other choice as I loved him too much and would never have left him over this - I was just sad that we weren't singing from the same song sheet! I thought my life would be so much better if I had a spiritual head. Credit to him, although he resisted going to the meetings many times, which used to really bug me, he never assaulted my beliefs - if he had of done I know it would've descended into a huge argument along the lines of what you have experienced.

However, there is hope for you and your wife.

4 months ago I was at the end of my tether. With two young children I was physically and emotionally frazzled. The love, help and support from the congregation was almost non-existent - this after 36 years of being a faithful witness. I was exhausted from the routine of the 'truth', and feeling uncomfortable with thoughts of the future and bringing up children to be 'different' and deprived of all the things their peers would be experiencing.

Besty chose this time to slip me a doubt - the subject of our mediator (except he's not as you know, he's only the mediator for the 144,000). I checked this out for myself on www.jwfacts.com and the rest is history.

He and I are now singing from the same song sheet and are closer than we've ever been.

So, do not lose hope but do not attack her beliefs. Wait for your moment and be gentle. In the meantime love her like you've never loved her before - as someone else said - make it so that she never wants to leave you.

We are with you in this.

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Shunned in the Park...

by sweet pea in

today was rather a beautifully balmy hot summers day in the uk and i decided to take the babies to the park with a non jw friend of mine (let's call her y).

as i arrived in the park i caught sight of my best jw friend (let's call her x), one of the many who has decided she wants nothing more to do with me or my family.

i went to meet up with y and x walked straight past me with a quick flick round , obviously to check my babies out!

sweet pea

Thank you all for your kind comments and Dagney for your pm. Crumpet - can't wait to see you! We are so lucky to have you near us!

To top off our day we just got invited to a Judicial Committee - can you believe it???!!!!!! It is true. Might post the full story later - too busy discussing tactics with Besty right now......

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Shunned in the Park...

by sweet pea in

today was rather a beautifully balmy hot summers day in the uk and i decided to take the babies to the park with a non jw friend of mine (let's call her y).

as i arrived in the park i caught sight of my best jw friend (let's call her x), one of the many who has decided she wants nothing more to do with me or my family.

i went to meet up with y and x walked straight past me with a quick flick round , obviously to check my babies out!

sweet pea

Today was rather a beautifully balmy hot summers day in the UK and I decided to take the babies to the park with a non JW friend of mine (let's call her Y).

As I arrived in the park I caught sight of my best JW friend (let's call her X), one of the many who has decided she wants nothing more to do with me or my family.

I went to meet up with Y and X walked straight past me with a quick flick round , obviously to check my babies out! But not a word to me.

By this time I was feeling very sick and starting to shake. Ridiculous I know.

Y and I went to the main part of the park and sat down.

X returned but made no attempt to even acknowledge me although we were sat a stone's throw away (my first official incidence of 'Shunning').

I decided that I couldn't sit there and ignore my best friend who'd I been in contact almost every day with up until the last 4 months.

I went over to her, put my arm around her and told her I loved her. She said (in a very tense and strained way) "I love you too, you know". I resisted the attempt to tell her she had a funny way of showing it. I tried to keep a conversation going but as you can imagine it was like getting blood out of a stone. So I left her to it. She cut a sad figure sitting alone, looking after her children (who were delighted to be able to play with my babies although when they first came over they looked very awkward and didn't say much - anyone care to hazzard a guess as to what their parents have said as to why we don't go to the meetings anymore? I can just imagine - "they don't love Jehovah anymore so we don't love them anymore...) and a friend's child. A few months ago her and I would've been sitting there laughing and joking. Instead I was with someone else and she is not in my life anymore.

From feeling extremely nervous, sad and sick I went to feeling liberated somehow. It doesn't take the pain away but it makes you feel so much better when you are not playing their stupid games and you are able to show them what love really is. Perhaps next time I'll be able to say something more honest than "how's the family", but then again, there's probably not much point. I kind of feel I have achieved some sort of closure after the last heated exchange we had.

I would love to be a fly on the wall in her house tonight, but most of all in her heart/head. Cognitive dissonance must be killing her.

Thanks for listening.

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Next FDS Stunt?

by sweet pea in

shopoholic is of the opinion that friday's dc talk about obeying/following the faithful and (not so) discreet slave no matter what, is indicative of some dramatic stunt the fds are about to pull.

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any suggestions as to what this might be?

sweet pea

Oops, posted on Besty's login!

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The elders were there to help make sure Margaret would die

by Gopher in

another watchtower hospital liaison committee comes through and "protects" one of their members from possibly/probably extending their life via a blood transfusion.. click here to read the original story online.. .

jehovahs accused over gran's death.

jul 20 2007. .

sweet pea

Dubs will rationalise this away by holding her up as an example of one with an invredible strong faith, they will think to themselves that "a blood transfusion wouldn't have guaranteed her life and some will even remind themselves of people they have known who have died from complications involving a blood transfusion. They will ignore the relatives pain right now with the sound-bite "well our loving Jehovah will resurrect her in the new system. I know this is the case because I probably thought it myself one time.

Having children, with one baby needing an operation, I finally saw the light and knew there was no way that if he needed blood, and blood was the only thing that would save his life, I could not refuse him blood. My jdub best friend at the time assured me i wouldn't have to worry about this because the surgeon would give it to him anyway as he was a minor - convenient where UK witness parents are concerned....

During this discussion that very quickly became heated, another emotionally charged comment my 'friend' came up with was "in a few years' time, they won't even use blood anymore because they will have alternatives for every component". Classic.

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OKM 09/07 (english)- Just another brick in the wall...

by metaspy in

jw
friends

ok guys and gals, i (being the assistant to the magazine counter) have acquired the newest okm.. i have uploaded it to imagevenue.com: here.

hopefully that works!.

by the way drew, your translation was very close.

sweet pea

They've gone too far this time! Blatantly telling people not to use their brains - how the heck does one make sure of what you believe by only ever looking at one side of the story/argument? Funny how they have conveniently forgotten all the other scriptures that back this up including those famous Beroeans!! I really hope some more loved ones wake up and smell the coffee.

Perhaps this will be the two in the one/two punch or maybe the one but will probably not be the one/two (2 Confusions 19:14) - Courtesy of Besty.

So glad we're out and free!

Hallelujah.